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Mas o fenômeno se dá também dentro das culturas nacionais. Hoje no Brasil Machado de Assis é um "burguês reacionário", o negócio é estudar as letras de funk ou celebrar a "cultura da periferia"...
Curiosamente, ao mesmo tempo em que os ocidentais abandonam o "cânone Ocidental", os orientais o estudam ao máximo. Aqui nas universidades americanas sei de estudantes asiáticos que escrevem teses sobre Shakespeare e Milton, não sobre a poeta comunista feminista Ling Ching Ping. O Spengler observa que o número de chineses estudando e praticando música clássica hoje é 6 vezes superior ao número de americanos, embora as melhores escolas de música ainda estejam nos EUA (ainda que hoje com cada vez mais orientais).
Enquanto os ocidentais estudam a "grande poesia palestina" e escrevem teses sobre letras de rap, os chineses estudam o melhor de Shakespeare e praticam Mozart oito horas por dia.
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Quanto ao ocidente em si, que em sua própria cabeça definitivamente não inclui a gente, que se exploda, se quer tanto morrer. Bach continuará sendo ouvido em Seul, e Parmênides discutido em Mumbai. Com sorte, até em São Paulo...
Isso me fez lembrar daquele quadro do Fantástico com a Regina Casé idolatrando o pobrismo.
Chinês não é nada burro, e sabe o que realmente é bom. Mas no Brasil de hoje parece que quanto mais porcaria melhor.
Por essa e por outras que a nova liderança mundial será asiática, creio.
Confesso que não fecho muito com o que escreveu o Reynaldo, porque encontro valores na periferia que me fizeram bem quando os valores da classe a que pertenço me esvaziavam.
Desculpa, X, mas estou tão fascinada pelo Bernard Lewis, que não posso deixar de citar algo dele pertinente ao teu tema.
Ele diz que uma das causas da decadência da grandiosa civilização islâmica, que pontificava na literatura histórica (muçulmana), medicina, matemática, astronomia, filosofia e ciências foi seu preconceito e fechamento em relação aos avanços científicos, tecnológios e culturais que o Ocidente realizou a partir da Renascença.
Consideravam os europeus tão primitivos como a atual visão que se tem dos africanos.
"A relação entre a cristandade e o islã nas ciências viu-se então invertida; os que haviam sido discípulos (os europeus), agora se tornaram professores; os que haviam sido mestres, tornaram-se alunos, muitas vezes relutantes e ressentidos. Tinham disposição suficiente para aceitar os produtos da ciência infiel, primeiro em assuntos militares, que eram a preocupação primordial dos reformadores e na medicina, onde eles podiam fazer a difereça entre vida e morte. Mas aceitar ou mesmo reconhecer a filosofia subjacente e o contexto sociopolítico desses avanços científicos provou-se mais difícil.¨
¨(...) Hoje em dia, até os fundamentalistas mais radicais e mais antiocidentais aceitam a necessidade de se modernizar e na verdade de se fazer o mais amplo uso da tecnologia moderna, especialmente as tecnologias de guerra e de propaganda. Isso é visto como MODERNIZAÇÃO e, embora os métodos e os artefatos venham do Ocidente, é aceito como necessário e até como útil. A emancipação das mulheres é OCIDENTALIZAÇÃO; tanto para conservadores tradicionais quanto para fundamentalistas radicais ela não é nem necessária nem útil, mas nociva, uma verdadeira traição dos verdadeiros valores islâmicos. 'É preciso impedir que penetre no corpo do Islã e, ali onde já penetrou, deve ser implacavelmente extirpada'¨.
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Mais uma vez discordo. Machado de Assis é o máximo. Aliás estou relendo seus contos que são maravilhosos.
O lixo é que tomou conta da mídia. Muito mais uma questão da idiotice que só se interessa por números absolutos.
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Mas o islã também pegou muito de outras culturas, por exemplo hoje o que chamamos de "números arábicos" porque os árabes os trouxeram à Europa, são na verdade hindus. Quando os árabes conquistaram a Índia (matando zilhões, diga-se de passagem), adotaram o sistema numeral indiano. Idem com várias coisas da cultura persa. Mesmo os colonizadores europeus também aprenderam algumas coisas com os índios, então sempre existe uma troca.
O problema não é esse, aliás o problema não é com a periferia em si, mas sim com as elites, que em vez de estimular que as pessoas se esforcem para aprender dizem à periferia, "assim já tá bom, isso é que é cultura de verdade!". Ao mesmo tempo em que desprezam séculos de cultura ocidental.
Claro que há e sempre existiu troca entre as culturas, o que só nos enriquece como povos e indivíduos.
O que é interessante são as especificidades dessas trocas, o como, o porque, o quando. Estou sabendo que a origem dos chamados algarismos arábicos é indu e sua forma se deve aos ângulos que desenhavam. Os árabes, por sua geografia eram nômades e comerciantes, vai daí... Só não sei em que período histórico isso se deu, se pré ou pós Maomé e tenho preguiça de ir ao google.
Desconfio que, em muitos casos, o endeusamento que se assiste das manifestações da periferia também possa ser justamente uma estratégia para valorizar os que estão à margem e dar-lhes alguma perspectiva. Sei de programas - bastante insuficientes - que trazem crianças e adolescentes para aprenderem instrumentos musicais, dança e outras artes e ofícios do "cânone".
Numa terra onde um luminar por idiossincrasias pra lá de 'idios' prega a extinção do curso de Letras, (e aí onde estás agora, os cursos oferecidos nas universidades são de uma variedade estonteante, não é mesmo?) a expansão do acesso da periferia à cultura canônica me parece bem complicada.
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Os "esquerdistas" tem interesse pelos muçulmanos porque esses são extremamente contra o "imperialismo" americano.
Amigo do meu inimigo...
E o número de orientais praticando música clássica, não deve ser maior do que o número de ocidentais praticando artes marciais orientais.
É a busca do novo.
Mas que visão etnocêntrica!
"cultura de periferia", entre aspas.
como se não fosse cultura.
"civilização", como se não fossem civilizados porque não escutam Bach ou Mozart.
Acho que devíamos valorizar o que é nosso. Sim, queira ou não, esse "primitivismo" que você chama, faz parte de nós.
Os "antropólogos da maldade" estão interessados em registrar a cultura dessas pessoas. Mas por que ninguém mais está?
Só porque a cultura européia não faz parte da vida deles, significa que não merecem que sua passagem pelo tempo seja registrada?!
Devíamos todos aprender a relativizar. Eles aprendem o nosso e vice-versa, sem abnegar a própria visão de mundo.
Continue assim, mr. x...
morrer e se sentir tranqüilo por não ter aprendido nada.
E não, eu não sou de esquerda. pra falar a verdade, não sou extremista.
Sou apenas humano, habitante do mundo.
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Some individuals carry hunting previously for the severe but looking proper following the holidays for any up coming holidays. Post vacation revenue are occasionally even more desirable than pre-holiday revenue as departmental shops attempt to obvious excess stock by providing ridiculous savings.
Needful Adjustments
Moving up Christmas buying a couple of weeks will take to some extent adjustment, spending budget sensible, specifically through the principal yr belonging to the timetable alter. However it doesn't carry a good deal to acquire used to it. Its just a matter of maintaining to some set routine of placing quite money apart for shows.
The Gift Conundrum
Apart from producing purchases all through revenue, acquiring in bulk can conserve you plenty of money. Its continuously great to break recipients into a couple of groups principal - near household, loved ones, near buddies, acquaintances, colleagues - you receive the concept. Performing so permits you to organize your purchasing healthier. That mentioned I only have two recipient groups - instant household and other people.
Obviously you'll need to purchase a lot more individual and thoughtful presents for any many people closer for you. But for extra generic presents, I advise pack browsing, that is just like pack hunting, only nicer.
Pack looking right here suggests gathering a few of mates with comparable purchasing lists after which getting in bulk to carry benefit of economies of scale. I usually pack store with two other individuals in relation to generic presents. You are going to uncover that you could get extremely great presents like wine glasses at fundamentally outstanding costs whenever you pack store.
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